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A reader wrote about an interesting and sexy experience she recently had with her husband and a prostitute in Amsterdam.  It got us to thinking (and fantasizing).  Here's what she wrote:

My husband and I recently returned from Amsterdam. While there I bought some time with a prostitute for him. I
thoroughly enjoyed watching him screw her. And he enjoyed it too. We had the best sex ever after that event. There are some rules that I set before we did this but, I was
wondering if there are safeguards and agreements made
within a couple that make swapping more enjoyable for
everyone. Also, where do you meet people that are discreet
and into swapping too?

We have talked about a prostitute fantasy of ours for years. We would love to do it, probably for the reasons that it turned out well for you. The real evidence of it being a positive experience for you is your mention of the "best sex ever after that event." All good sexual experiences have that after effect. Thinking back on things you've done (with distilled memory) makes for many great sexual experiences from one event.

We've divided this question into three parts:  Safeguards and Agreements, Levels of Friendship, and Finding the Right Person. 


Safeguards and Agreements
Discussing your desires and your comfort level with your partner and with your swinger partners beforehand is the key to success.  It may seem like a business deal, negotiating sex acts, but actually the conversation--as specific as possible--can be quite arousing.  Respect for the limits and continual communication while things are going on are the other keys.  Remember:  what you think you might like, you may not; what you think you may not like, you may.  You are never obligated to do anything at all. 

Here's an example:  You have had a conversation with your spouse about swinging.  You've decided that you each would like to have oral sex with another couple, but penetration only with your spouse.  You also decided that you would find it most enjoyable if you were able to watch the other person pleasuring and being pleasured.  You explain what you want to another couple, who says that sounds like fun.  When things get going, you find that you don't have the view you want.  Stop things gently, and explain that you want to watch for a little bit.  Simple as that. 

Another example:  You have decided with your spouse that kissing is out.  You think you would be uncomfortable with that sort of intimacy.  You explain this to your swing partners beforehand.  Everyone is fine.  During the action, you realize that you would really like to kiss and see your partner kiss.  You can either wait until next time, talking it over with your partner after the experience, or try to adjust things at this meeting.  The latter is best done by finding an alone moment--a break in the action--to talk it over with your partner first, then bringing it up with the others before things resume.

And yet another:  You decide with your partner that nothing is off limits.  You want to do it all, meaning full intercourse with another couple.  When you actually see it, you aren't sure how you feel about it, or when it comes time to do it, you can't.  Simply say, "let's go back to ____, or let's try something else for a minute.  I don't think I'm ready for this yet."   No one will care (if they are good swingers).  There are plenty of other things to do.  Everyone's comfort is the most important part of everyone's pleasure. 

Talk beforehand.  Talk during.  Talk after. 

Levels of Friendship
People remember to talk about sex acts and physical desires, but oftentimes forget to consider other aspects of the relationship one has or will have with other swingers.  One of the turn-ons of the prostitute experience is control, but another is anonymity.  There are definitely no strings attached with a prostitute, unless the cops bust through the door.  Swinging might not be as simple, but there are benefits to knowing the people you have sex with as well. 

There are so many sorts of swingers, so many different sorts of fantasies, so many different sorts of motives.  One of the key differences in swinger preference (that one can usually only guess at--especially initially) is level
of desired closeness to their sex partners. Closeness ranges from complete anonymity to polyamorous "marriages," with many levels of familiarity and friendship in between.


Many swinger misunderstandings stem from the lack of communication about what level of closeness is desired. Couples who want their partners to become good friends in and out of the bedroom feel they are being rejected by people who shy away from such things, while couples who want a little more distance from their swinger friends find couples who want more to be "clingy."

We are somewhere in between, as we are in most things. We see the good in all desires, but we have our own preferences. We like to feel comfortable with the people we swing with and like to hit it off on a friendly level as
well as a sexual level. We also like to keep in contact with those we've had experiences with. Every so often. We have friends in the lifestyle we see once or twice a year, picking up where we left off. These are our favorite types
of people. They don't expect to do something every week or even every month. We like that. Like most of us, we have other competing lives. In other words, we're not out to make new best friends. Friends and friendly acquaintances, yes. We have a couple close friends in the lifestyle, but those are the exception for us.
 

Good Clingy


So the advantage of having threesomes or moresomes with people in the lifestyle is the friendly connection--on whatever level. It is also a boost to know that the person you are having sex with really wants to have sex with you. These are the big advantages (besides cost, of course). The disadvantage is that friendliness. If the third person wants more than you are willing to give in terms of friendship, there could be problems down the road. It is also harder to find a single woman in the lifestyle than it is in the professional world. Every fmf threesome we've had has been with a friend. Once, at a club, we were in an orgy with a single woman, but that probably doesn't count.

Once again, the key is discussion.  What sort of relationship do you want with your swinger friends?  Be as up front about that as you are about actual sex acts and many problems can be avoided.


Finding the Right Person or People
Weeding out the real from the unreal, the compatible from the incompatible, the discreet from the indiscreet can be time consuming. Face to face interaction is the best way to find out if there is chemistry and how the person acts. Besides sex clubs (where discretion is often guaranteed by anonymity, especially clubs away from home), there are many meet and greets for swingers--from the curious to the seasoned.  There are many online guides to on premises and off premises sex clubs.  Most of the online swinger sites we recommend also have postings of local meet n greets and other sorts of get togethers.


See our guide to online swingers sites for information about meeting people online.

Any other ideas?  Let us know.   

 

J&J

 

 

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